{"id":13681,"date":"2019-11-22T09:26:23","date_gmt":"2019-11-22T09:26:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chinesemoment.com\/spoken-chinese\/making-chinese-quot-roman-quot\/"},"modified":"2019-11-22T09:26:23","modified_gmt":"2019-11-22T09:26:23","slug":"making-chinese-quot-roman-quot","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/chinesemoment.com\/fr\/making-chinese-quot-roman-quot\/","title":{"rendered":"Making Chinese &quot;Roman&quot;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>You mean, like, starring Jackie Chan as Maximus?<br \/>  No, by &quot;romanizing&quot; Chinese, we mean using the letters of the Roman alphabet (you know, &quot;A, B, C&#8230;&quot;) to spell out the sounds of the characters, such as b\u0115i, n&aacute;n, d\u014dng, and x\u012b to represent bei north,&nbsp; nan south, dong east, and xi west. This is done to make learning how to pro<em><\/em>nounce characters easier.<\/p>\n<p>  In other words, romanization is a learning tool for pronunciation, not a replacement for characters.<\/p>\n<p>  Such a tool is necessary because nothing in a Chinese character itself tells exactly how to pro<em><\/em>nounce it. For instance, out of the blue, would you know how to say &quot;&quot;?<\/p>\n<p>  BUT WHAT a<em><\/em>bout&#8230;<br \/>  Occasionally, native speakers of Chinese will claim that characters do offer inherent pro<em><\/em>nunciation clues. I&#8217;ll counter, however, that no character carries the information to communicate its exact pho<em><\/em>netic pro<em><\/em>nunciation or tone.<\/p>\n<p>  In the Characters section, you&#8217;ll read how some characters are built of two other characters, with one influencing the sound and the other the meaning (Sound Plus Meaning Compound Characters), such as this:<\/p>\n<p>  <img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"345\" height=\"178\" src=\"http:\/\/chinesemoment.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/20191122_5dd7c4af79787.gif\" alt=\"Making Chinese &amp;quot;Roman&amp;quot;\" \/><\/p>\n<p>  It&#8217;s possible that o<em><\/em>nce people have learned a number of characters, they may begin to recognize many of these sound influences in retrospect; however, there is no effective or reliable system for learning character pro<em><\/em>nunciation with this approach. It certainly wouldn&#8217;t help you figure out this one, for instance:<\/p>\n<p>  lin<br \/>  A source of co<em><\/em>nfusion in the West is the fact that several systems exist for spelling Chinese words with roman letters, and most people have no idea which they&#8217;re seeing when they encounter one. The three most common systems are called Wade-Giles, Yale, and P\u012bny\u012bn.<\/p>\n<p>  The Wade-Giles system was developed in the 19th century by Sir Thomas Francis Wade, a British officer and diplomat who served in China, and was later modified by Cambridge professor Herbert Allen Giles. The Yale system was developed at Yale University in the late 1940&#8217;s, originally for (according to some sources) teaching Mandarin and Canto<em><\/em>nese Chinese to military and diplomatic personnel. <\/p>\n<p>  P\u012bny\u012bn, which is pro<em><\/em>nounced like peen-yeen and means literally &quot;spell-sound,&quot; is the official system that the People&#8217;s Republic of China began developing in the late 1950s to help fight the country&#8217;s illiteracy problem. It is still used in Mainland China to teach elementary school students how to pro<em><\/em>nounce their native tongue.<\/p>\n<p>  AS IF THAT WEREN&#8217;T Co<em><\/em>nFUSING ENOUGH&#8230;<br \/>  An additio<em><\/em>nal source of co<em><\/em>nfusion lies in the fact that for many years, the West&#8217;s primary co<em><\/em>ntact with a Chinese-speaking culture was with Hong Kong, wher Canto<em><\/em>nese is the primary dialect. The name Hong Kong itself, for instance, is Cantonese. The Mandarin name for this Special Administrative Region of China is Xi\u0101ng G\u0101ng. Quite different ways to pro<em><\/em>nounce the same two characters (xiang gang), though both names of course mean &quot;Fragrant Harbor.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>  Another system from long ago still making occasio<em><\/em>nal appearance is the Chinese Postal Romanization system, which was ba<em><\/em>sed largely on German spelling approaches to pronunication. The name you&#8217;ll see most often from this system is Tsing Tao, the beer, named for the place it&#8217;s made, Tsing Tao, the island (Qingdao in pinyin spelling).<br \/>  As the People&#8217;s Republic of China plays an increasingly im<em><\/em>portant role in global affairs, P\u012bny\u012bn has emerged as the system used most in the Western world. It has been officially adopted by the Internatio<em><\/em>nal Organization for Standardization (ISO), the United Nations, and the governments of the United States and many other western nations. You&#8217;ll find it used throughout the rest of this site as well.<\/p>\n<p>  Just the same, it will be to your advantage to make yourself familiar with all three of these romanization systems. That way, you can easily work with materials from most any romanized source.<\/p>\n<p>  For comparison, this table shows how Wade-Giles, Yale and P\u012bny\u012bn romanize this sentence, which means &quot;I am going to Beijing.&quot; (And note that this chart includes tone markers, which you&#8217;ll read a<em><\/em>bout later.)<\/p>\n<table width=\"300\" cellspacing=\"3\" cellpadding=\"3\" border=\"0\" bgcolor=\"#cccc99\" align=\"center\" style=\"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"34%\">\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(153, 51, 0); background-color: rgb(204, 204, 153); padding: 5px; border-width: 0px 1px 1px 0px; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-right-color: rgb(153, 153, 102); border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 102);\"><b>System<\/b><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<td width=\"66%\">\n<p align=\"left\" style=\"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(153, 51, 0); background-color: rgb(204, 204, 153); padding: 5px; border-width: 0px 1px 1px 0px; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-right-color: rgb(153, 153, 102); border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 102);\"><b>Romanization<\/b><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"34%\" align=\"center\" style=\"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(153, 51, 0); background-color: rgb(204, 204, 153); padding: 5px; border-width: 0px 1px 1px 0px; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-right-color: rgb(153, 153, 102); border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 102);\"><i>Wade-Giles<\/i><\/td>\n<td width=\"66%\" style=\"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(153, 51, 0); background-color: rgb(204, 204, 153); padding: 5px; border-width: 0px 1px 1px 0px; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-right-color: rgb(153, 153, 102); border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 102);\">wo3 ch`&uuml;4 pei3 ching1.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"34%\" align=\"center\" style=\"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(153, 51, 0); background-color: rgb(204, 204, 153); padding: 5px; border-width: 0px 1px 1px 0px; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-right-color: rgb(153, 153, 102); border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 102);\"><i>Yale<\/i><\/td>\n<td width=\"66%\" style=\"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(153, 51, 0); background-color: rgb(204, 204, 153); padding: 5px; border-width: 0px 1px 1px 0px; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-right-color: rgb(153, 153, 102); border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 102);\">w\u014f chy&ugrave; b\u011bi j\u012bng.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"34%\" align=\"center\" style=\"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(153, 51, 0); background-color: rgb(204, 204, 153); padding: 5px; border-width: 0px 1px 1px 0px; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-right-color: rgb(153, 153, 102); border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 102);\"><i>P\u012bny\u012bn<\/i><\/td>\n<td width=\"66%\" style=\"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(153, 51, 0); background-color: rgb(204, 204, 153); padding: 5px; border-width: 0px 1px 1px 0px; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-right-color: rgb(153, 153, 102); border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 102);\">w\u014f q&ugrave; b\u011bi j\u012bng.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>  The three systems, as you see, do have some similarities &#8230; and some grand differences. And while we&#8217;re on the topic, why not check out what the U.S. Library of Co<em><\/em>ngress decided on the romanization issue.<\/p>\n<p>  Putting all that in context, to give you a look at how some other terms compare, take a look at these well-known Chinese names rendered in Wade-Giles, Yale, and P\u012bny\u012bn:<\/p>\n<p>  <img decoding=\"async\" width=\"404\" height=\"203\" src=\"http:\/\/chinesemoment.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/20191122_5dd7c4b040623.gif\" alt=\"Making Chinese &amp;quot;Roman&amp;quot;\" \/>  <\/p>\n<p style=\"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;\">NOTE<br \/>  To give you a more thorough comparison, in the Pro<em><\/em>nunciation Appendix, I&#8217;ve put together pages wher you can compare these systems side by side, part of the &quot;appendix&quot; to this pro<em><\/em>nunication overview.<br \/>  &nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"chine-tie-zi-nei-rong-zhi-hou\" id=\"chine-2901103597\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-1889418300638825\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-1889418300638825\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7273022922\" \ndata-ad-layout-key=\"-gw-3+1f-3d+2z\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SystemRomanizationNOTE<br \/>\n  To give you a more thorough comparison, in the Pronunciation Appendix, I&#8217;ve put together pages wher you can compare these systems side by side, part of the &quot;appendix&quot; to this pronunication overview.<br \/>\n  &nbsp;<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2855,2853],"tags":[14,118,151,192,114,45,1157],"class_list":["post-13681","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-pronunciation","category-spoken-chinese","tag-chinese-words","tag-culture","tag-mandarin","tag-mandarin-and-cantonese","tag-pronunciation","tag-teaching","tag-to-teach"],"views":233,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/chinesemoment.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13681","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/chinesemoment.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/chinesemoment.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/chinesemoment.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/chinesemoment.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13681"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/chinesemoment.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13681\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/chinesemoment.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13681"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/chinesemoment.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13681"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/chinesemoment.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13681"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}